you should try & get more BBC newsreader shots - a great one of susannah reid in -well- not much is out in the ether...

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Perhaps we should see pictures of her working as a prostitute, which would be a considerably more honourable job than the one she has now.

She didn't approve of being called a MILF by my brother on Sunday.

Bit harsh perhaps Brian, don't shoot the (rather nice)messenger!And she IS wearing a poppy, I wonder how long it will be before the BBC quietly discourages that.As for the silly 'survey', you can get any answer you want from one, as long as you ask the right questions.

"more of BBC news presenter Sophie Raworth dressed up as a prostitute (purely for charitable purposes you understand)"

Very much so, I feel quite charitable today.

(Actually my three charities are the Scouts, Disabled American Veterans and Paralyzed American Veterans "There but for the Grace of God...")

As a solution to your problem, I suggest you do what we do in this country - seperate Memorial Day(our version of Remembrance Day - May 31) from Veterans' Day (Nov 11).

Or you can just shoot the fatuous bastards.

Tomorrow, I shall meet my fellow veterans at the flagpole in front of our town's MEMORIAL Library at 11 AM, buying a poppy (Ltc McCrea was a fellow brother of Zeta Psi Fraternity)to wear from the local DAV chapter and remembering all our brothers and sisters in arms, with a special thought for those murdered at Fort Hood (I hope Hassan makes a speedy and full recovery, so he can be publicly stripped of his rank ala Cpt Dreyfuss before being hanged. By ancient tradition, being shot by firing squad is for honorable men)

Col Beausaber (veteran, son and nephew of veterans and nephew of a fallen soldier)

They say "tribal" like it's a bad thing.

I have no connection to 'Ekklisias' but this is from their website - not quite the telegraph's presentation...

"Remembrance Day needs to be re-imagined to make it more inclusive, more truthful and more meaningful for future generations, says this report.

This would include an honest acknowledgement that some did “die in vain”, an end to “selective remembrance”, a positive stress on peacemaking, and making Armistice Day a bank holiday.

The report follows the death of the 'last Tommy', Harry Patch from World War 1, who sadly described current patterns of Remembrance Day as “just show business”.

Remembrance has been ‘cheapened’ by a failure to back up words with action, particularly when it comes to successive Government’s care for war veterans, but also the lack of resources put into peacebuilding.

The report traces the development of Britain’s remembrance tradition and makes a series of proposals about how Remembrance Day might be updated and made more accessible. It also includes reflection on the meaning and practice of 'memory', not least from a Christian theological standpoint."

Anyone who uses the word "re-imagined" (did they not mean "re-imaged"? -- just as bad) in an English-language sentence deserves to be scourged and rolled in a barrel of salt.

Bloody consultant-speak will be the death of me -- because I don't know it, refuse to learn it, never use it, ever, and want to apply the above punishment to all who do.

And, lest we all forget, I am actually a consultant by profession. (It's a "profession" like prostitution is a profession, same concept, really, except that you get better value for money with a totty.)

It's "Armistice Day", not 'remembrance sunday' and it is commemorated at 11 am on the the 11th of November, not the nearest day orf. PC Sods.

That poll could be used as a shibboleth on the glorious day! Couldn't be too far off now

Don't worry, over here in Canada, Remembrance Day is taking a shit-kicking as well. A byelection polling station in New Westminster, B.C. is reported to have turned away voters wearing a poppy. Apparently, a poppy signifies your political affiliation. But I suppose in a free country, if you're a completely ignorant doosh who votes for bigger dooshes, you're free to not have to appreciate those who have died for your right to be a completely ignorant doosh.

"This would include an honest acknowledgement that some did “die in vain”"

And just WHO would make that particular value judgement? On what criteria? I can sure as hell make an intelligent guess as that means anyone since September 11, 2001 - except for the poor peaceful Muslims who are being crushed beneath the neo-colonialist oppressors.

an end to “selective remembrance”,

Transalation: "honoring the people from the country holding the memorials who have died in the service of the same when we should be honoring all those poor SOB's who fell for (insert dictator of your choice), not a bunch of lower class yahoos who thought this country was worth fighting for"

Let the other countries of the world memorialize their fallen any way they choose and more power to 'em.

a positive stress on peacemaking,

Was somebody named Chamberlin on the committee that drafted this BS?

and making Armistice Day a bank holiday.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Over. For the Love of God, why?

Am I the only one who hears echos of "Resolved this house will not fight for King and Country"?

Col Beausaber

I marched at the Cenotaph this year, I promised my Dad I would march round with him once I had passed 40. I was the right hand marker at the front of the columns as the Royal Signals led the parade this year. Even though I've been a stinking civvie for a number of years now, the Guards GSM still put the shits up me! Although he wasn't as intimdating as Perry Mason.

If you ever get the opportunity to do it, take it. It was humbling marching round with guys who had dropped at Arnhem, gone ashore at D Day, Been with the Gloucesters in Korea. My brief escapades in the Balkans pale into comparison to what these guys experienced.