Thought crimes
A few days ago we touched upon the ‘reach’ of our judicial system. Today, I notice that
A leading Holocaust denier was arrested as he flew into Britain yesterday, accused of running an internet site that insisted that the Nazis had not murdered millions of Jews. Dr Fredrick Toben was held at Heathrow at the request of the German authorities for publishing “anti-Semitic and/or revisionist” material between 2000 and 2004.
Although Holocaust denial is not an offence in Britain, it is a serious crime in Germany and Dr Toben faces up to five years in prison. The Australian citizen was arrested under a European Arrest Warrant designed to fast-track extraditions.
Dr. Toben, a German national has commited no offence on British soil yet he finds himself arrested & now threatened with so-called fast track extradition to Germany where Holocaust denial is a crime.
Now without doubt Toben is a deeply unpleasent piece of work who holds even more unpleasent beliefs. However firstly I question whether he has even commited an offence on Germany soil & secondly, I ponder the wisdom of assisting the German authorities in abitarilly seizing individuals.
It interesting to consider that HMG seems happy to comply with a foreign government in this case & yet it doesn’t seem to want to apply the same standards to the ‘thought crimes’ of our own home grown Jihadies. Or maybe I am just not getting something here?
Comments
Are there any Dunkirk deniers around? I am not aware of any. If there were, would we seek to lock them up? Unlikely. We may roll our eyes and pity the poor sod in his delusion but wouldn't be so stupid as to prosecute him. To do so would merely give his ideas more publicity.
Why should we do any different for the holocaust and the apparently delusional Dr Toben?
If Dr Toben is the idiot that the authorities imply he is, then surely his "evidence" (or whatever other information he claims he has) will be seen to be the disinformation that his adversaries claim it to be. Hoist by his own petard.
It's not the job of British Courts to act in this way. Then again, I suspect this is all part of the creep creep of unifying us into the European Soviet Union.
A case of "I may not agree with what you say, but I defend your right to say it".
Posted by: Paul | October 3, 2008 10:53 AM
"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for
people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."
-Noam Chomsky
Posted by: Paul | October 4, 2008 4:07 PM
Dunkirk has been proven , the holocaust has not been.
Thats why nobody denies it and even if they did they would not be sent to gaol for it.
You say he is an unpleasant peice of work but what evid3ence do you back that statement up on?
Simply because he has a differing view of ww 2 than you do?
We have Aussie diggers who also deny the holocaust and have written books on it and who were actually in the concentration camps who state they well well treated considering they were in a war.
Your nonsense and hatred of freedom of speech shows you are nothing but the crypto jew you are.
Why dont you ever mention them and their criminal, world dealings.
You try and make yourself out a patriot when all you are is another zionist mouth piece.
Merely the other side of the coin as a communist pig.
zionism= right wingers controlled by jewish international bankers.
communism = left wingers controlled by jewish internationalist bankers.
Who is behind your immigration policies?
who controls your banks, your media, your education departments.?
Who is organising all the teach your 5yr children and forcing them to learn about homosexualism,transexualism,bisexualism,race mixing, multiculturalism etc etc ?
JEWS.
DO YOUR BLOODY RESEARCH YA TOOL.
WITHOUT JEWS WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE PROBLEMS WE CURRENTLY DO.
www.stormfront.org
visit it, learn.
YOU THINK YOUR PISSED OF NOW YA BRITISH BULLDOG, WAIT UNTIL YOU READ ABOUT WHATS REALLY GOING ON.
WHITE GENOCIDE BY ASIATIC JEWS.
DO YOU SEE CHINA ACCEPTING MILLIONS OF NEGROS, MEXICANS,MUSLIMS?
DO YOU SEE JAPAN DOING THE SAME THING UNDER THE MULTICULTURALIST RACIAL,CULTURAL,NATIONAL GENOCIDE POLICY WHICH IS MULTI"CULT"URALISM?
STOP BEING A PC FOOL AND COME JOIN THE REST OF YOUR BRITISH BROTHERS AT STORMFRONT.
WAKE UP WHITEY AND SAY NO TO WHITE GUILT.
HOLOCAUST,SLAVERY,COLONIALISM,ABORIGINAL MASSACRES ARE ALL LIES TOLD BY CULTURAL MARXIST FAGS.
FOR EXAMPLE.
JEWS DECLARED WAR UPON GERMANY NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, THE JEWISH POPULATION GREW BY 2,5 MILLION DURING WW2 NOT DECLINED BY 6MILLION
SLAVERY= THE FATHER OF AMERICAN SLAVERY WAS A NEGRO, JEWS BROUGHT THE MAJORITY OF NEGRO SLAVES TO AMERICA,THERE WERE MORE WHITE SLAVES WHO WERE TREATED MUCH WORSE THAN THE NEGRO SLAVES.75% OF JEW POPULATION OWNED SLAVES.35% OF NEGRO POPULATION OWNED SLAVES ONLY 0.5% OF WHITE POPULATION OWNED SLAVES.
I KNOW MY HISTORY DO YOU.?
SAY NO TO WHITE GUILT.
PLEASE GIVER ME THE NAME OF 1 JEW WHO HAS BEEN FORENSICALLY BEEN PROVEN TO HAVE BEEN GASSED BY THE NAZIS?
YOU HAVE 6MILLION TO CHOOSE FROM, I ASK ON LY FOR1 OF THEM.
I WILL SMASH YOUR WHITE GUILT TRIPING LIES.
DR TOBIN IS MORE OF A MAN THAN YOU WILL EVER BE.
PS HITLER PLEADED FOR PEACE NOT ONCE BUT TWICE TO YOUR JEWISH CONTROLLED GOV.
WHEN THE TRUTH FINALLY COMES OUT YOU BRITS WILL BE KNOWN AS FIGHTING FOR THE WRONG SIDE BECAUSE YOU ALLOWED THE VERY INTERNATIONALIST JEWISH BANKERS THAT HITLER WAS FIGHTING AGAINST TO WIN THE WAR.
THERE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN A WAR BETWEEN GERMANY AND ENGLAND.
HITLER TOLD THE JEWS THAT GERMANS EAT POTATOES AND NOT GOLD ,THEN PROCEDED TO MAKE THEM HEALTHY ,WEALTHY AND WISE.
BASICALLY YOU BRITISH ALLOWED THE JEWISH COMMUNIST,BOLSHEVICS WHO MURDERED 60MILLION WHITE CHRISTIAN RUSSIANS TO WIN WW2 WHEN THEY COULD HAVE BEEN FOREVER CRUSHED LIKE THE MASS MURDERERS THEY ARE.
RESEARCH THE COMMIES BEHIND THE RED CURTAIN, 95% JEWS IN CHARGE.STALIN HAD A JEW WIFE AND LENIN WAS HALF JEW.
Posted by: dingo | September 14, 2009 10:51 AM